Journalist: Over the last few days, you’ve been watching reports from our correspondents on the deployment of humanitarian aid in Albania, and also in Macedonia where there are now some 100,000 refugees. And it is here in Macedonia that the effectiveness of the High Commission for Refugees is being contested by a number of humanitarian aid organisations which are accusing this United Nations agency of not fulfilling its mandate to provide these refugees with assistance.
Valérie Fourniou, Frédéric Pasquette :
Commentary: Mrs Ogata, high commissioner for refugees, began her visit to Macedonia with a tour of Brasda camp, a camp managed by Alliance troops that is currently home to more than 26,000 refugees. There is no HCR presence in this camp, so the tour was conducted by military personnel. Mrs Ogata then met with the Macedonian authorities to find out more about what happened to the refugees who disappeared during a particularly heavy-handed evacuation of Blace camp.
Sadako Ogata : “We now have a clearer picture of events.”
Commentary: The information she was given examination needed to be cross checked. She later learned that 1200 refugees had disappeared. They had been evacuated to Turkey and Greece.
But her main achievement during this visit was obtaining a border agreement.
Sadako Ogata: “I pressed for an agreement on borders and have been given assurances that they will remain open. The Macedonian president and I have drawn lessons from the events of the last few days. »
Commentary: Borders where, since the exodus began, the HCR has been conspicuous by its absence, like here in Jajinse, despite its mission to ensure the protection of refugees. At the borders and in the camps there are only Macedonian troops:
Nicholas Moris (HCR) : “As far as security is concerned, of course the HCR is not going to ensure the security of the camps. That's the government's problem. »
Commentary: MSF has reacted angrily to the HCR’s absence from the camps and borders where it should be registering the refugees:
MSF: “We are asking the High Commission for Refugees to do its job, to do what it’s supposed to do : to carry out its international mandate of ensuring the refugees protection and assistance. »
Samantha Bolton (MSF): “There should be no military involvement in humanitarian assistance. That’s what we’re here for, to organise the assistance. They should let us get on with it. Soldiers shouldn’t be doing it. Their job is war. »
Commentary: As for the Macedonian government, it is still keeping a close eye on the camps. Its troops ensure a constant presence